Kalimdor looks incredibly small.
Ulduar huge and uninstanced.
Also, it also looks like they had plans for 3 factions (Blue, Red, Green).
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Havent ever seen that one, interesting.
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Maybe third faction was the ‘scourge’ like in warcraft 3, in which scourhe/burning legion were not in the horde and were just an external factiom entirely that both ally/horde had to fight.Also, it also looks like they had plans for 3 factions (Blue, Red, Green).
Maybe they decided after that to just change undead to horde to simplify or save dev time, or to make the factions binary.
I don’t think this is from anyone on the dev team tbh - maps of kalimdor and eastern kingdoms existed already on warcraft 3 loading screens and were the same proportions as they are in wow...
Warcraft 3 came out in 2002 if iam not mistaken.
This map is from 3 years before that.
Interesting idea to have Northrend in there at the start.
I remember hearing somewhere that they intended to have three factions originally, but logistically it didn't work out as well as two, so they scrapped it.
Blue is Alliance
Green is Horde (green for Orcs)
Red is Enemy Territory
For the Alliance:
H means Human
D means Dwarf
HE means High Elf
For the Horde:
O means Orc
T means Troll
G means Goblin
NE means Night Elf (imagined to be an edgy/evil race at this time, more like the Drow they are based on)
Enemy factions:
DE means Demons
NA means Naga
U means Undead (Scourge)
10/10Navak wrote: ↑5 years agoBlue is Alliance
Green is Horde (green for Orcs)
Red is Enemy Territory
For the Alliance:
H means Human
D means Dwarf
HE means High Elf
For the Horde:
O means Orc
T means Troll
G means Goblin
NE means Night Elf (imagined to be an edgy/evil race at this time, more like the Drow they are based on)
Enemy factions:
DE means Demons
NA means Naga
U means Undead (Scourge)
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So cool... in the Wow diary there are so many interesting images :D Ulduar as a whole continent is very interesting, and it was planned ~10 years before the actual raid!
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Very interesting seeing that Northrend was planned to be home to the Blasted Lands. Wonder if it is a naming coincidence or if the Dark Portal was originally supposed to be there.
Also OG Teldrassil named Kalidar! I actually quite like name.
Dark Portal was always in Azeroth (Kingdom) and Kalidar os island that was home of NE even in WoW alpha, Teldrassil was invented late in WoW development.
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very cool. i wonder if what they considered "ulduar" to be what we now have as silithus? an entire desert continent ruled by the bug agents of an old god. and nazjatar right in the maelstrom, which looks less like a whirlpool and more like a...hole in the world. and look how huge my beautiful quel'thalas is. they even had Zul'aman!
really cool. love stuff like this. wish i had all my old vanilla wow strategy guides and atlas and stuff.
After seeing all the Interviews with Kevin Jordan, Mark Kern und co it is really awesome how much Dream content the game already had even in Classic that is now real content in Bfa and co.
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I love the most how they expanded Kalimdor. From an island size of Westfall up to whole new continent. Gave us space for all these awesome vast and desolated zones like Tanaris, Desolace, Ungoro, Feralas, Silithus... feels immense and monumental to venture through all these wild unacommodating swathes of land.
That's a pretty interesting map. Interesting they pictured Kalimdor so small and Ulduar to be its own continent.
this is crazy! never seen this before but its ace to see! Thanks for sharing
Blasted Lands is where Arthas would be, that's interesting. Ulduar as an entire continent would've been crazy to see too.
Don't know why my brain read Lilduar at first.
Wasnt this map posted in another part of this forum earlier?
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Shaelus - Night Elf Druid Lvl 50
Doesn't seem like it if you use the search function. But why would it matter anyway, it's not like he's blatantly reposting for karma, /shrug.
This map looks cool tbh, Kalimdor being this small seems accurate to me.
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This map was drawn by Chris Metzen early into WoW development so everybody from the team could easily look up where places are located. At that time he really placed Dark Portal in various places before finally moving it to where it is. At least this is what I found in the WoW Diary.
Don't be surprised with inconsistencies and retcons. Afterall, Metzen retconned Eredar/Sargeras arc in TBC and I believe he later admitted he didn't even realized. Warcraft never stuck to its mythos and had plentiful retcons.
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Seeing this is like reading all those flavor books you find laying around on tables and floors across the inns and capital cities in the game. There was a lot of content talked about in there that didn't make sense at the time but was eventually added. I remember hearing or reading about northrend years before wrath, maybe even before TBC. It's pretty cool that stuff was eventually fleshed out.
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